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  • Noit Otni & The Pits

    Noit Otni & The Pits

    (c’79-80) – Robert “Noit” Jacob (guitar), Bev Lillywhite (keyboards), “Valentine Orson” (bass), and Charles “Lofty” Lawton (drums).

    When The Volunteers wrapped things up in ’79, Jacob pulled together Noit Otni & The Pits. Managed by the spurious Sydney Arbor-Bridge – it’s unclear if all the band member names above are real – the band could be seen regularly gigging in Woking and Guildford. Noit Otni released the “A Heart Can Only Be Broken Once” double A-side single in December of ’79 on Automotive Records (AERS 107) with “Moving Target” on the “B-side”.

    Picture courtesy of Fred Pipes

    Automotive was a one-off DIY label; Aerco Records, of Woking, were responsible for the recording, from where it gets its catalog series. Under the slogan ‘Rock Against Rock’ on the 18 December ’79 there was a launch party for the record at The Wooden Bridge, Guildford. The band were back at The Wooden Bridge on 9 February ’80 for a Barbed Wire benefit that saw Noit Otni & the Pits and UBz support The Vapors, who were too famous to put on the bill so were listed as The Japanese Prisoners.

    In 1980, the Barbed Wire fanzine Issue #5, Vol.3 No.1 featured the band who later changed their name to Square One. Jacob went on to join The Alligators and had his Aquamass production featured on Granada television in 2000:

    You could catch Jacob every Thursday at Griffin Bar’s jazz night at HG Wells Suite or with his partner Beverly Chadwick, of Casual Sax fame, at Hugo’s. Jacob died suddenly on April 11, 2005 following a stroke.

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  • Cutting Edge

    Cutting Edge

    (c’81-82) Steve Baker (guitar), Al Dick (vocals), Nick Hudson (drums), Keith Renton (bass) and David Raphael (keyboard/harmonica).

    Picture courtesy of Steve Baker

    Managed by Steve Riley and Marcus Reynolds, who already had one top 40 band on their resume, they gigged extensively in the local area and up into London; including Starlight Club, Hampstead; Laker’s Hotel, Redhill; Reading University supporting The Darts; and Farnborough Tech.

    Formed from ex-Squire / Panther / Bo and the Generals guitarist Baker, Panther vocalist Dick, Infra Red Helicopters’ Hudson on drums, ex-M.I.5 / Crisis member Renton on guitar, and ex-Panther keyboardist / harpist Raphael they recorded “Wheels in Motion” at Shepperton Studios. In ’82 Renton left when Dick and Baker “tid[ied] Keith’s words up a bit”. Drummer Hudson, also left around the same time, leaving Cutting Edge with the ex-Panther core of Dick, Baker and Raphael.

    Renton would reappear as Keith Smart in GZ Image.

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  • Panther

    Panther

    (c’76-81) – David Raphael (keyboards / harmonica), Malcolm Dewhurst (drums), Ian Steward (bass), Al Dick (vocal / harmonica) and Steve Baker (lead & rhythm guitar).

    Panther at the bar of their regular practice venue. Picture courtesy of William de Kock

    In ’76, Dewhurst banded together with vocalist Paul Neal, later adding Jane Pethick (lead guitar) and Erik Gibbons (guitar) and Ruth Gibbons (bass). By ’78, the original line-up included Ian Smith on bass and Dick. Smith was replaced by Steward and after Neal left Jim Homersham of Dr JJ’s Blues Band stepped up for a few months replacing Dick on vocals who’s stepped away, until he left and Dick returned. Steve Busby (guitar) joined the band at around this time. Dick was responsible for pulling ex-Squire guitarist Baker into the mix. When Raphael, who’s been introduced to Panther by Homersham as a harmonica and keyboard player, auditioned for Panther, there was Ruth and Erik Gibbons, Dewhurst, Pethick and Homersham. Raphael would eventually replace Dick on vocals / harmonica. At some point Pete Steadman, also joined the band but eventually the band locked down to Raphael, Dewhurst, Steward, Dick, and Baker. Peter Cripps picked up the roadie / manager duties securing gigs at topflight venues, and when Busby didn’t return to the band after his vacation stood in on guitar for about 3 months.

    The band entered Chestnut Studios, Churt for their first studio recording session, with Cripps undertaking production, in ’79. Cripps was still on guitar when Upstairs at Ronnie Scotts’, London hosted Panther on 28th August ’79, with a number of fans receiving tickets for free entry. This was the year that they came third in a Melody Maker talent contest. Their tape made it to Polydor, who turned them down ‘as only signing mod bands’ according to a Jon Harlow’s piece in Soundscene.

    On 31 May ’80, the band teamed up with M.I.5., Hailey’s Vomit and other, reportedly, for an anti-nuclear armament benefit party held at the Church Hall, Woodham. A few months later, on 29 November ’80 the band were the solitary rock band at Woking’s Music Festival, held at the Centre Halls, Woking. Oft seen playing live at The Cricketers, Westfield, they were invited by Rick Buckler to support The Jam at The Civic Hall, Guildford on 11 December ’80 – which they did. Paul Weller asked Baker, who was an old school mate, if he could play Dewhurst’s kit in the soundcheck – of course he could!

    Panther, at the Guildford Civic Hall, 11 December ’80, supporting The Jam. Picture by Keith Knowles courtesy of Steve Baker.

    Jon Harlow’s Tapeworm project’s first release was of Panther live at The Cricketer’s on 11 February ’81. Ray Mitchell’s Ebony Mobile Studio rolled up to the pub and run the wires through the bay window and recorded almost 50 minutes of live performance on their four-track system, putting 8 songs on each side. We also know that Panther supported The Alligators at The Junction, on the top floor of Bunters, Guildford on 10 July ’81. Coming back from a booking in South London, Dick fell out the back of the band’s van and landed on the bonnet of the car behind. The inebriated Dick, unscathed and still clutching his beer, brushed himself down and carried on.

    Original Panther members Raphael, Dewhurst, and Busby along with Nigel Turner played a reunion gig at the Apulstock Festival, Bosham on 19 July 2014.

    At some point Raphael and Dewhurst signed a recording contract and Panther were on to lay down some tracks at studios near Marble Arch. This was probably Pye Studios, but the other band members vetoed the session and the contract as they ‘didn’t trust record companies’. By ’81, most of them resided in the same house where they’d gather, load the band van, head up to London for a gig, and then back in the early morning. Non-payment by one of those London venues led the beer loving band members to confiscate a keg in lieu of cash. A tough life when you are trying to hold down a day job on very few hours sleep. Eventually the band members went their own ways.

    Dewhurst and Steward reportedly teamed up with Brian ? of The Fix after Panther folded in October ’81. Dick, Baker and Rapheal formed Cutting Edge with Nick Hudson (drums), Keith Renton (bass) in ’81. By ’85 Dewhurst was in China Heart with fellow Panther Raphael along with Brian Hanlon (vocals / guitar), and Nigel Turner (bass). Smith recalls, after leaving Panther, seeing and responding to an advert in the NME looking for a bassist, and Zero Time were formed.

    Original members Raphael, and Dewhurst, along with Busby and Turner played a reunion gig at the Apulstock Festival, Bosham on 19th July 2014. Horsell resident Baker, who’d been in Squire prior to Panther, emigrated to Australia and played in The Beatlegs, regrettably died on New Years Day 2019. Steward and Homersham are also no longer with us. Dick, who may have changed his last name to Grant, has disappeared.

    Front cover of 2025’s ‘Made to Measure’ CD compilation on Different Class Records

    In 2025, Different Class Records, issued a 20-track CD compilation of Panther’s demo recording and tracks captured live at The Cricketers, all remastered by Peter Woodley of Kidz Next Door, on 11 February ’81.

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  • The Mighty Strypes

    The Mighty Strypes

    (c’80-83) Pete Woollett (vocals), Nick Moore (bass / guitar), Calvin Gumbs (drums / tambourine), Anne Morrison (vocals / flute), K.T. Moore (keyboards), Andy Lockwood (lead guitar) and Kev Tidy (rhythm guitar).

    Renowned for their stonking live performances this seven piece reggae group gigged throughout the local area and up a down the country. They originated in Slough, but like Cardiacs, Soundscene claimed them as one of our own – Morrison had been in St. John’s band 57 Beans after all. In 1980 they released a double A-side 7″ on the Ape Records label [APE 001] carryimg “Five For You (Work)” and “Natural Reaction” to positive reactions from local rags and fanzines.

    That same year, the penultimate issue of the Bracknell and Newbury based No Cure fanzine featured The Mighty Strypes, as did Grinding Halt No.6 which reviewed two separate gigs. The first at The Monday Club supporting El Seven aided by A Fast Crowd had The Mighty Strypes stealing the show; the second saw the band headline with The Runners in support. While we do not have a clear gigography for The Mighty Strypes we do know that they performed at least two or three times a week and a typical schedule would look very much like this from November ’80: Youth Club, Gerrards Cross (14), Studio One Club, Slough (18), Royal Holloway, Egham (21), Dingwalls, Camden (22), and Scamps, Oxford (26). At the very end of 1980 the band found themselves supporting The Flatbackers at Dingwalls on 27 December.

    The Mighty Strypes gigged at The Cricketers, Westfield in early ’81 on both 16 January and 1 February. On 10 June ’81 the band were up in Oxford at the now closed Scamps in the Westgate Centre. They also supported M.I.5. at, News & Mail reporter, John Harlow’s Rock Night II, along with The Choirboys at The Cotteridge Hotel, Woking in ’81. In ’82 we know they appeared at Alexandra’s, Chippenham on 28 July supported by Death Pop at a benefit gig for Wrexham Park Hospital and two days later they were at Midnight Express, Bournmouth. The band’s appearance supporting Black Symbol at Fisher Hall, Cambridge in early October ’83 was reviewed by Keith Legoy for the 15 October issue of the Cambridge Rock Rag: Blue Suede News fanzine. Later that month they opened for Death Pop, with The Telephone Boxes, at Langley College, Slough.

    We know that Morrison worked at Tesco in Wokingham.

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  • Blood & Fire

    Blood & Fire

    (c’80-87) – Simon Barnett (drums), Karl Allison (vocals), Simon “Herbie” Herbert (bass), Alvin Allison (keyboards), and Marc Harry (guitar/trombone)

    Blood and Fire

    This Christian rock band formed in ’80 with the original line-up of the Allisons, Malcolm Dragon (guitar/bass), Jason Griffiths (bass), and Tony Voice (drums), who was shortly replaced by Ian Mayhew, breaking the Salvation Army (SA) brass / marching band mold and receiving some flack for being different. They pulled their name from the SA flag and the organisation’s motto ‘Blood & Fire’ right before taking the stage at The Church of the Good Shepherd Clan, Pyrford for their first gig. The band remained fairly local in the early days playing Woking and Guildford, with the odd trip further afield, with a basic lighting set-up operated by Jan Mayes and a spot directed by Paul Strickland.

    Harry guested with Blood & Fire in late September ’82 at Butlins, Bognor Regis. Dragon was still in his KFC work attire, Mayhew a vintage SA band festival tunic and Griffiths in a tux and bow tie. A hospitalization with appendicitis and then a move from Woking to Worthing saw Mayhew drop out and replaced by Barnett, who first picked up the sticks for an October ’82 gig in Colchester, supported by Alvin Allison’s other band National Youth Banned. The gig was recorded for Citadel Sounds and later released on cassette. Around Christmas ’82 the band performed at a HMP Coldingley and Harry become a full time member.

    In ’83 they recorded “The Things That People Say” cassette album in June Collins’ front room. By spring ’83 Griffiths had left, after a weekend of gigs in Felixstowe. Dragon moved to the bass, but followed Griffiths in the the summer and replaced by Herbert. It was during this period that Barnett joined for good – But his ‘born again’ credentials didn’t go down well with the SA however, he was not ‘Army’, and this would hit the band later.

    Blood and Fire Seaside Tour ’83 band photo

    On 8 July ’83, Blood & Fire performed to 400+ youth at Christchurch Hall, Guildford, supported by Pulse. This was followed by the start of their 10 day long Summer / Seaside Rock Tour ’83 a few days later taking in Bognor Regis, Poole supported by The Reaction, Launceston, Falmouth, Penzance, back to Poole where Radio Solent recorded “Sceptics” for broadcast and interviewed members of the band; both broadcast on 5 September in a feature on Greenbelt., and finally costa del Woking supported by Mervyn Sprocket and the Crankshaft Assembly. In late October there was a gig at Reading Central and on 5 November Tunbridge Wells hosted the band, Teddington, then Newcastle (a gig which saw the band stopped and nearly arrested as a flying picket on the drive home), Hillingdon, Pontypool and a ‘Christmas Special’ in Grantham.

    On 17 February ’84, supported by Salt Solution, Blood & Fire played their last Woking gig. They then hit Maldon and Bexleyheath, where prophecizing, a sermon on Christian’s loving each other, and a ‘children’s story’ resulted in an uncomfortable atmosphere amongst the SA congregation. Rumours reached band member’s relatives that the band had been suspended; caught in a pub with drugs and prostitutes, and had became fanatical ‘extremists’. There was no tour that summer. In August they spent a week recording “The Things That People Say”, their first album and a title that may point to that years rumors.

    The band tried to go ‘professional’ as a full time Christian rock band, but Karl Allison went to study theology at Eltham and Herbert training to be a chartered accountant they could not commit fully. Alvin Allison, Barnett and Harry took on the weekdays joined by the others on the weekend. The SA rejected the bands proposal for support. The bands ‘Christmas Special’ saw them hire the Camberwell SA Hall and book two support bands: Worthing based Rendezvous, which including Woking expats Kevin Burton, Jo Boniface and ex-Blood & Fire drummer Mayhew; and the London Community Gospel Choir.

    Blood and Fire play Dartmoor Prison

    In ’85 the band book more gigs at more churches. They played far and wide in the likes of Hexham, Whitley Bay, Falmouth, Hayle, and memorably Dartmoor Prison. In May they were part of SA’s centenary celebrations in Bournemouth. In July they returned to Grantham supported by Zero Option. That summer they toured the North West and Scotland, titling this peregrination ‘The Black Pudding & Haggis Tour’. BBC local radio interviewed the band just prior to their Barrow-in-Furness gig, not that it inspired a big turnout. The next night they were in an old theatre in Edinburgh, then Perth, followed by Whitley Bay, then Lancaster and finally Preston. In September they recorded their second cassette, titled “Who Is It?”, in Portsmouth’s Citadel Hall. That autumn the SA Pop Festival took over Regent Hall on Oxford Street, London and Blood & Fire got to perform. November saw the band travel to France for the National Youth Congress, stopping in Rouen for a gig and then onto Paris. The band’s pre-‘Christmas Special’ in ’85 was at Regent Hall, London on 30 November.

    1st gig of French Tour at Saint-Éloi Temple, Rouen

    In early ’86 they undertook a sponsored bed-push from Teddington to Guildford to raise a grand for a new PA. Harry left after a Dorking Halls gig supporting Paul Field in ’86, having started BAF Recording, a mobile recording business. The band’s part time sound man, Andy Piper, stood in as guitarist for a while; and the bands ad in the Army press resulted in Jon Brooks getting the position. The bands ‘Northern Lights Tour ’86’ took in some of the same venues as ‘Black Pudding & Haggis’ and kicked off in Barnet with a gig the following night in Liverpool and then Edinburgh the night after that. Arriving in Dunfermline they discovered the gig had been cancelled with no explanation and headed to Aberdeen Citadel for their next appearance. Phoning ahead the band discovered that Inverness had also cancelled and provided no explanation. An uneventful gig in Livingston preceded the minibuses engine letting go just north of Carlisle. Via train and gear truck the band made it back to Guildford just in time for the tours last date at Crawley College, which was recorded by Harris’ BAF Recording company and later released as “Live All Over the Place”. The band appeared on Stage Two of Greenbelt that year and later returned to Bristol and performances at Stockwood Church and Broadmead Baptist Church. The band then qualified for the final round of International Musicians of the Year ’86, held at the Astoria Thearte, London, although they didn’t win, and rapped up the year with a concert at Bromley College – some of which appears on the “Live All Over the Place” cassette LP.

    Blood and Fire at the International Musicians of the Year ’86

    1987 kicked off with a gig at The Barn, Avery Hill College, Wimborne where Karl Allison, at the time, was studying Theology and then at Wimbledon SA. The bands performance at this last gig caught the eye of Tony Cummings, a Buzz Magazine journalist/editor who organized a recording session at Big Feet Studios, Walsall. The result was 1987’s “Articles of War” (Big Feet A103) cassette, which opened with “Freedom Fighter”.

    “Articles of War” cassette LP

    Which brings us to the bands tour of Northern Ireland which started in Ballymena, the town that banned a performance by the ELO Part II in the early ’90s, saying they would attract “the four Ds of Drink, Drugs, Devil and Debauchery”. On the first night they played Ballymena Town Hall followed the next night by a gig at the town’s YMCA before they hit Belfast, Lisburn, then Newry, where their Town Hall gig was interrupted by the RUC and British Army, who’d received a bomb warning with the appropriate code-word. Then it was back to Lisburn where a member of the tour was hissed and booed for wearing green. After the gig Alvin Allison found himself at their tour van surrounded by military. A tour program on the seat titled ‘Blood and Fire in Northern Ireland’ having triggered a response! Their final tour date, in Dublin, was cancelled for no apparent reason. Back on home turf they continued gigging throughout the south. Then they were invited to appear at the SA’s National Youth Rally at Birmingham’s NEC at which they were cut short after their second of three songs for being too loud, inciting the audience which worried the NEC staff, and that they hadn’t actually been invited to play. The band’s end of year spectacular, and Barnett’s final gig with the band, was back at Regent Hall, London on 28 November ’87.

    By the end of ’87 the cracks had began to show, not helped by Barnett’s departure, and a band that was now spread from Sunbury to Grantham and London to Hascombe. 1988 started with SA HQ pulling the rug from under the band. SA venues were reportedly ‘ordered’ to cancel any Blood and Fire bookings and told that the band was barred from any further affiliation with or support from the SA; something the SA’s Chief Secretary denied. Without gigs, at which to sell “Articles of War”, the band tried to place an advert in the SA’s newspaper to help shift a few copies. The cheque was returned with a letter outlining that they’d been instructed not to accept the advert. The band, after over 250 gigs at a lot of Salvation Army Halls, including Woking on 17 February ’84 supported by Salt Solution, and a few festivals and touring the UK and France, decided to call it a day and play their last remaining booking in Grantham in March ’88 as a farewell gig – but, even that was cancelled.

    The band did reform for two more shows in autumn ’89 for the Rock and Rejoice concert at Teddington and in spring ’92 to bid farewell to Herbert who was off to Africa to work for Food for the Hungry International.

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  • Great Garden

    Great Garden

    (c. ’82-’87) – Jon Brown (bass), Andrew Brown (vocals / guitar), Richard Baker (guitar) and Andy “Boo” Green (drums).

    Great Garden band shoot. Picture courtesy of Andrew Neil Brown

    By ’84 the band were playing the likes of Mayfair’s Embassy Club, where they got a bit of stick for sounding like the Cure (10:15 Saturday Night was in their set). Great Garden sound was described as ‘anthemic pop’ by The Riverside Club, Fetcham organizers for their 6 December ’85 support slot for The Skiff Scats. Their final gig of ’85 was the “Gig For Africa” at The Dorking Halls on 21 December, with a plethora of other local bands including headliners Cardiacs, Shoot! Dispute, and The Body Politic.

    Great Garden pin. Source: David Powell via The Riverside Club Fetcham Leatherhead Surrey in the 80’s

    On 9 February ’86, the band were at back at the Riverside Club; supporting The Body Politic. They played The Riverside Club regularly, supporting or headlining with the likes of The Geisha Girls, Skiff Scats, Roaring Boys, Endless Party, The Lucy Show, Irish Moss Peat, and Shoot the Joker. On 14 June ’86 the band supported, along with Endless Party, The Dogs D’Amour at Bourne Hall, Ewell.

    But they also played up in London. In April ’87 they were at the Mean Fiddler. A few months later (July ’87) they support Cardiacs at The Marquee. Regular appearance partners The Body Politic split in November ’87 after a mini UK tour, which concluded in Hastings with Great Garden in support and a punch-up that put several of the audience in hospital. Great Garden followed suit in December ’87 and split after six years together; playing their last gig back at Bourne Hall on 17 December supported by Shoot The Joker and Irish Moss Peat.

    17 December 1987: Great Garden’s last gig, with Shoot The Joker and Irish Moss Peat supporting at Bourne Hall, Ewell. Source: Andrew Neil Brown via The Riverside Club Fetcham Leatherhead Surrey in the 80’s

    The band released at least three demo cassettes and came 5th (posthumously) in the Soundscene Demo Review of ’88. In mid ’88 a rumour started that had Great Garden joining Napalm Groove Squad, The Body Politic, and Dance Factor for Woking Live Aid later that year. These were all denied, but members of The Body Politic did confirm that they had been songwriting with a couple of members of Great Garden; although one had departed and they were going to continue as a trio…

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  • Dark

    Dark

    (c’88-89) Jason Orbaum (keyboards / vocals / bass), Mark Johnston (guitar / bass), and Darrell van Horn (guitar / vocals / drums).

    Initially a duo of ex-Chez Ed members Orbaum and van Horn, they produced three demo tapes. They then stepped into Ian Mackay’s JTI Studios in Brixton to record a ‘best of’ nine track tape that included “Personal Disasters”, “Sole Reminders”, “Dreamsleep” and “Valley of the Sublime”. By January ’89 they were seeking a more permanent solution for the bass and recruited Johnston.

    A Steel Bill & the Buffalos gig at the Cricketers, Westfield in ’88 was the catalyst for members of Dark, Wise Child and The Button Factory to form X-It.

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  • Dance Factor

    Dance Factor

    c’87-’88 – Ian Pitwell (?) & ?

    Pitwell formed Dance Factor in ’87, the same year he was involved in the Stock Aitkin Waterman organised charity concert for the Queen Elizabeth’s Foundation for the Disabled at the Royal Albert Hall, London that included Then Jerico, Brother Beyond, Precious Wilson, Pail Johnson, Rick Astley, David Grant, T’Pau. and Sinitta on 12 October.

    More information is needed but Dance Factor were originally a 6-piece band that dissolved in early ’88 and possibly Anna-Lucy Torjussen, lately of Lax Lifetime, and Miss Woking Julia Bolton were in the reformation, mid ’88. In July/August ’88 it was rumoured that the reformed band would be part of that September’s Woking Live Aid organised by ABC Music. By December ’88 they were picking up the “Memorial Award for Absent Friends” from PG Tips.

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  • Summerbee

    Summerbee

    (c’94-95) David Bailey (vocal & guitar), John Rollinson (guitar & vocal), Michael Bailey (bass & vocal) & Martin Smith (drums).

    Woking based Summerbee rose from the ashes of Vox Pop, of which all four members of the band had been part, delivering a late sixties/early seventies sound. The band secured a Christmas period slot at the Cricketers, Westfield in ’94 and started appearing in London in early ’95, including St. John’s Tavern, Archway on 14 March.

    David Bailey moved to Spain, was involved in the The Real Me and Acoustic River Collective (ARC) – a group of musicians based in Almeria – and is currently recording as part of Left Bank Two. Michael Bailey sadly passed on 12 August 2021. Rollinson is currently playing with the TR5s.

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  • Life Limited

    Life Limited

    (c’86) – Darrel Watson (vocals) Martin Smith (drums), Simon Laird (guitar), James Willis (bass)

    Formed in January ’86 by Smith, after some time in Milky Bar Kids, with Watson, he invited Laird to take lead guitar and Willis the bass. Willis dropped the bass in June, taking on bookings etc., and was replaced by Kevin Craig, who’d not picked up a guitar before. Initially rehearsing at Smith’s parents the band eventually found rehearsal space at the Old Woking Scout Hut. Jim Croft also joined a couple of the rehearsal sessions, playing ‘She Sells Santuary’.

    29 July 1986: Life Limited with fans outside the venue of their debut gig. Picture courtesy of Lizzie Hall.

    Their debut gig came on 29 July ’86 at The Galleon, Chertsey. The Galleon was awash, packed to the gunnels, with Bishop David Brown alumni, some wearing Life Limited T-shirts. During the gig Craig’s bass, which he’d borrowed from the bands original bassist Willis having acquired it was David Burrows, stopped working. “No worries” says the sound tech “I’ve got one in the boot of my car” saving the day.

    Life Limited played just one more gig in September ’86, for Watson’s 18th birthday, at the Old Woking Scout Hut; which burnt down sometime later,

    Smith was later in Vox Pop. Craig is still playing, but has switch from bass to guitar.

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  1. Human beings takes me back to 1981. Followed them all over the Surrey reading area for a year a great band and 3 good guys playing well written songs of the era. I wish john Tim and steve well what ever they are doing now. Should reform for a few shows just like Oasis but do the wooden bridge.

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