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  • Gresham Press Band

    Gresham Press Band

    (c’1902-1914) ?

    Old Woking based Unwin Brothers like many other works had their own band. Founded in 1902 the Gresham Press Band, which was also known as Gresham Brass Band or Gresham Press Brass Band, are known to have played at events in Send, with many of the players living in houses built in the village by the company.

    Membership numbers varied but seems to have always been around 18. In 1906, the band competed and won a competition in Aldershot for their marching and playing, going on to be the southern area champions. Sadly, like many work’s bands, they disbanded during First World War and never reformed.

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  • Cryin’ Out Loud

    Cryin’ Out Loud

    (c’87-date) Eric ‘Ferric’ Gosling (vocals / guitar / harmonica), Chris ‘Wheelbarrow’ Brayne (drums), Tim Wheatley (bass / vocals), and Bill ‘Hillbilly’ Hill (guitar / vocals).

    This Godalming / Guildford R&B combo formed in the spring of ’87 following Brayne’s return from Thailand. Brayne. who had done a stint with Nashville Teens and The Stormsville Shakers, also did his time in Mungo Jerry, The Famous Rondini Brothers, Poker, Manhole, and Backhurst, recruited Gosling – previously of early ’70’s Tempus Fugit and known for a growling vocal style – from Manhole / The Riff Power Blues Band, along with Tim Wheatley – a musician and producer with ties to bands like Good Earth, Taggart, House, Gracious, and Poker, as well as having been the engineer at Keynote Studios, Frensham and owner of Chestnut Studios, Churt – and Hill. The band rehearsed in a cottage in Hurtmore, and are known to have played at the Village Hall, Chiddingfold; The Three Lions, Farncombe; The Maltings, Farnham – they were certainly there on 1 December ’88; The Halfway House, Heath End; as well as The White Hart, Frimley.

    Cryin’ Out Loud playing at The Blues Tavern, Farnham in 1994.

    The band also ventured a little further afield, appearing a number of times, including 27 April ’90, at The Hatch, Old Basing. In ’88 they recorded the cassette LP It’s Your Own Fault, live at The Maltings. Matt Wheatley took on the drums and Mike Windus the guitar / vocals and they added piano around ’97. Richard Ashworth deployed Cryin’ Out Loud’s rhythm section of Tim & Matt Wheatley on his “Songs to Grow up With” album in ’97, which included the song “Wilbur Rowe”.

    In the mid 90’s Clodagh Rodgers held a benefit for her husband, guitarist Ian Sorbie, who had cancer and regrettably died in ’95. A pick-up band, that included Tim Wheatley, performed at the event held at the Village Hall, Chiddingfold. Brayne, who was nicknamed Wheelbarrow, had also played drums in Jackie Lynton’s Happy Days Band for quite a while and is the subject of the bands The Worlds a Wheelbarrow”; is sadly no longer with us having passed in ’96. That year there was a commemorative gig for him, with Jackie Lynton, Cryin’ Out Loud, House and a pickup band that included Ray Dorset. The reformed House recorded a track for a commemorative CD in ’97.

    Cryin’ Out Loud are reportedly still gigging today, regularly appearing at Scratchers and Music in the Park, Godalming, amongst other venues.

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  • Detour Records

    Detour Records

    Detour started as the result of an enforced life detour for founder David “Dizzy” Holmes. Enroute from Midhurst to the National Scooter Rally, Skegness in ’84; Holmes hit a flooded section of motorway and smashed into a crash barrier. 18 months later he left the spinal injuries treatment centre at Odstock Hospital, Salisbury bound to a wheelchair.

    An avid record collector before the accident he dove in deeper. Holmes placed an advert in Scootering Magazine to sell some unwanted vinyl and sold the majority and before long he’d a regular customer list. His mail order vinyl business was born.

    Detour Records [DR001]: The Persuaders’ Finished Forever / In the Night sleeve front

    In 1992, The Persuaders, from Margate, sent Holmes a demo tape and a few months later 300 copies of Finished Forever/In the Night [DR001] were released in January ’93 – Detour Records first release. They sold well, indicating a market for mod influenced music. That same year Detour released DR002 through to 009.

    Detour Records [DR002]: Tin Solders’ A New Beat’ / Girlfriend & Get Up and Go sleeve front.

    The second release [DR002] was the one and only single by Hartlepool’s Tin Soldiers, which was pressed by SRT.

    Detour Records [DR003] from 1993: Front sleeve for The Direction’s double A-sided Yesterday / The Kids Wanna New Direction.

    DR003 was Lewisham based The Direction’s second single, the double A-sided Yesterday / The Kids Wanna New Direction, and their only release on Detour. Tania ? joined Detour Records and handled the business side of the label / mail order sales (not Holmes’ forte), while Holmes focused on the records.

    Detour Records [DR007] from 1993: Front sleeve of Vox Pop’s Cor Blimey / Pretty Impossible. Picture courtesy of Ben’s Collectors Records

    Woking’s own Vox Pop recorded a number of tracks at Earth Terminal Music in June ’93 with Cor Blimey! and Pretty Impossible, both produced by Luke Baldry along with the band, making it onto 7″ vinyl as Detour Records’ double A-sided DR007. Pretty Impossible would go on to appear on The Farnborough Groove and the Japan only release of a various mod artist compilation titled Kickstart! (TFCK-87501) on the Flavour of Sound label in ’95. When Record Collector magazine published an article on Dizzy Holmes’ Detour Record label, they called out Vox Pop’s Cor Blimey! as indicating a direction away from the typical mod sound of the label.

    Detour Records [DRLP003] from 1995: Front sleeve for The Clique’s LP Self Preservation Society.

    In ’95, Philip Otto (bass), Trevor French, (vocals), Dom Strickland (organ), Bruce Brand (guitar) and Matthew Braim (drums), the five members of London based mod psych band, The Clique released The Self Preservation Society [DRLP003]. This was the band’s first and last studio album, after eight years as a unit. Engineered and produced by Liam Watson, part of it was used on The Big Breakfast. Selling over 5000 copies, with artwork by Dom Strickland, it is Detour’s best seller and saw The Clique showcase for the One Little Indian label. Mark Lamar would later have them do a Live in Session slot on Radio 1 on Mark Radcliffe’s evening show and he wrote the sleeve notes for the farewell single released on Detour in ’98.

    In ’96, co-produced with Detour Records, Flavour of Sound released The Jam Tribute the Modern World compilation album – again in Japan only – which carried Vox Pop’s Running on the Spot. This was re-released (PREACH008CD) in the UK on the Rhythm Vicar label in 2001 with two additional tracks.

    Today, Detour has morphed into several labels (Detour, Paisley Archive, Biff Bang Pow, Bin Liner, and Only Fit for The Bin) and the mail order catalogue is online only. It is also be worth mentioning that just about everything Detour has released is available to stream or download from your favorite digital service.

    Holmes is still active in the music arena and with Tania also runs the Bulldog Rescue Trust.

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  • The Doolahats

    The Doolahats

    (c’57-’58) Claude Wilkins (guitar / vocals), Chris Arkle (washboard), Chris Winters (guitar), and Mick Cranham (tea chest bass).

    This Guildford skiffle band got together in ’57. The next year Johnny Kelly (lead guitar) joined as Arkle moved to snare drum. Cranham and Winters left and Les Owen came in on bass and Micky Lampard on Guitar. Missing the truly skiffle washboard sound Stan Newman joined late in ’58. One Roger ? was also a member of the band during Newman’s tenure.

    Owen got to together with a few others to form the Crescendos in the ’60’s and was later joined in the band by Kelly. Newman sadly passed, at the age of 81, in 2021.

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  • The Dennis Orchestra

    The Dennis Orchestra

    (c’1916) Harry Whitworth (piano), Leslie Fly (piano) and ?.

    Dennis, the commercial vehicle manufacturer based in Guildford, was the town’s biggest employer and had an extensive work social program including The Dennis Orchestra. They performed at local events and for troops stationed near Guildford. They used Dennis lorries for transport.

    On 18 March 1916, the orchestra travelled to Pirbright to perform to the company of soldiers stationed at Guards’ Camp, all of whom were ordered to France the next day. In the Surrey Advertiser on 2 December 1922, the Dennis Athletic Club on Woodbridge Hill, Guildford advertised their Dance Friday to be held on 8 December 1922 with music by The Dennis Orchestra, with tickets costing nine pence. The orchestra had also performed at the venue the prior Friday, the 1 December 1922.

    Fly was also involved with the Co-Operative Concert Company.

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  • Heart Management

    Heart Management

    (c’85-‘?) Heart Management was run by the father and son team of Bob and Chris Herbert out of Lightwater. In ’85, Bob took a liking to Matt and Luke Goss, friends of his son Chris and pupils together at Collingwood School, Camberley. Only 15 at the time, they had formed their own pop group called Gloss with the bassist Craig Logan. Bob offered Gloss advice and provided rehearsal space for them in his summer house; introduced them to songwriters, financed their early demo tapes and planned their route to success.

    Gloss met musician, songwriter and music producer Nicky Graham, who introduced them to music manager Tom Watkins. Unimpressed, Watkins realized that he could mold the group into a boy band for the teen girl market, with Graham and Watkins writing the songs for them. Gloss split from Herbert and signed a contract with Watkins and his management company. Watkins renamed the band Bros.

    Bob and Chris, now 21 years old, teamed up and Heart Management and Safe Management came into existence. Early ’94 found Bob handing out flyers in UK cities and placing an ad in The Stage which drew 600 applicants. He stated that “The whole teen-band scene at the time was saturated by boy bands like Take That and the Backstreet Boys. That was all a bit of a yawn for me and only appealed to female audiences…I felt if you could appeal to the boys as well, you’d be laughing.”

    23 year old Chris Herbert of Heart Management

    The Herberts then, along with financier Chic Murphy – who previously managed the Three Degrees, auditioned the applicants and whittled the line-up down to Melanie Brown, Geri Halliwell, Melanie Laccohee, Lianne Morgan, and Michelle Stephenson. Laccohee was replaced almost immediately with Victoria Adams, and shortly after Morgan and Stephenson were replaced by Melanie Chisholm and Emma Bunton respectively. All five were put up in a semi-detached house in Maidenhead and rehearsed daily at Trinity Studios within the Community Centre, Knaphill.

    Originally called Touch, it was during this development phase in ’94 that filmmaker Neil Davies, who’d been looking to make a documentary film about a girl group, filmed the quintet for four months at Trinity Studios and their Maidenhead domicile. There was no guarantee that the group would find success, but Davies wanted to capture the story even if it was a disaster. The group were insecure about the lack of a contract and frustrated by the direction in which Heart was steering them (dress the same and sing cover versions of other artists).

    The Spice Girls purportedly shot at Trinity Studios, Knaphill

    Chris set up a showcase performance for industry writers, producers and A&R men in December ’94 at the Nomis Studios, Shepherd’s Bush. There was a lot of interest in the group and the Herberts quickly set about a binding contract, but all five members delayed signing on legal advice. In March ’95 they parted from the Herbert’s Heart Management and Spice, then the Spice Girls were born.

    In ’97, the Herberts reverted to boy-bands and the formation and management of Five, having selected the lads from 3,000 hopefuls who’d auditioned for Bob and Chris. Heart also helped oversee the careers of Stephen Gately, B*Witched, The Honeyz, and Ben’s Brother. Chris represented Hear’Say as part of the music reality TV show, Popstars and managed all the artists from the BBC music show, Fame Academy. In 2001, Chris was awarded the Manager of the Year award by the Music Managers Forum. Chris Herbert was also the manager of Justin Edwards, aka MC Ultra, the source of 2012’s Tulisa Contostavlos sex tape.

    Five

    Bob died in a car crash in Windsor on 19 August ’99. Chris appeared in Raw Spice, the 2001 documentary about the Spice Girls, filmed by Davies back in ’94, and is still involved in the music industry.

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  • Village Hall, Churt

    Village Hall, Churt

    After WWI 5 1/2 acres of a 10-acre site in the middle of Churt became recreation ground as a memorial to the dead. The remaining area was divided into building plots to be sold originally only to ex-servicemen. One plot of land remained unsold so Frank Mason, a local businessman, gave Churt the plot and its Village Hall; which opened in 1928.

    One of the Hall’s early Trustees was local resident David Lloyd George. During WWII the Hall was used for Wartime Services and the locally stationed Canadian army held weekly dances. On 7 December ’63, The Stormsville Shakers rocked the village, returning on 25 January and 8 May ’64. In the early 60’s we know that local band The Conchords played there, and the music continues at the venue to this day.

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  • Lopez and the Waveriders

    Lopez and the Waveriders

    (c’79) Patrick ‘Paddy’ Carroll (bass/vocals), Clive Parker (drums), Martin Whittaker (guitar/vocals)

    Parker, who’d played with rock n roll, show, and rocks bands on the Old Dean Estate including Cameo, along with Carroll had both been in The Members. Carroll being Jean Marie “JC” Carroll’s brother, who’d joined The Members in ’77.

    Their band, with Whittaker, started out as The Planets. On 19 May ’79, T. T. Transmission headlined at the Technical College, Farnborough and were supported by The Planets – a purposeful juxtaposition where the Waveriders’ well performed opening was incongruous to the audience’s prog-rock leanings. There was however another band going by The Planets moniker, and they had a record deal and a manager and a fruitless argument with that manager by Parker led to a change of name.


    19 May 1979: T. T. Transmission, supported by The Planets, headlined Farnborough College of Technology. Picture courtesy of Mark Terry

    Initially thy changed to Walkies Talkies, then going by Lopez, a moniker under which they were supposed to support Thieves on 18 December ’79 at The Tumbledown Dick, Farnborough, but to the best of our knowledge Thieves didn’t show and the support became the headliner under the longer moniker Lopez and the Waveriders, with Matrix Numbers opening the show. The poster for this gig and many of the bands’ others were surreptitiously photocopied at RAE, Farnborough where Parker worked.

    The band gigged across the area including Guildford, Bracknell, Farnborough, and Reading and they supported The Members and Eddie & The Hot Rods further afield. They rehearsed in the basement of Whittaker and Carroll’s rented house in Reading, a location that led to gigs at Bones Club, Reading as well as Bulmershe College, Reading and Northeast to Oxford pubs. They also rehearsed in the hall next to Cornwallis Primary School on the Old Dean Estate, nipping to the The Highwayman, Camberley after for a drink or three.

    Not long after Lopez and the Waveriders dissolved, Parker joined Athletico Spizz 80. Big Country’s Stuart Adamson then auditioned Parker in ’81 at The Members’ rehearsal room in Ladbroke Grove, London. The next day he was called on to play on demos for CBS Records and subsequently joined the band. Parker was also a member of Scary Thieves, Kingfishers Catch Fire, Holy Trinity, Barra, and Marshall Star; and toured with Nik Kershaw, Pop Will Eat Itself, Crazyhead, and Living Colour. More recently, Parker has played in The Expressway with ex-Jesus and Mary Chain guitarist and drummer, John Moore. He went on to production and management, forming the Furry Records UK label. In ’92, Parker along with Oswin Falquero and Kasie Sharp wrote and produced Pulling the Strings, which became a minor dance hit. The Camberley lad now lives in East Sussex.

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  • Co-Operative Concert Company

    Co-Operative Concert Company

    (c’1920) Ethel Robinson (contralto), Madame A. Watts (mezzo-soprano), Archie Fielding (comedian), Reg Gaston (humorist), Ewart W. Nicholas (barritone), and Leslie Fly (vocals / piano).

    Accompanied by Fly, who was also involved with The Dennis Orchestra, on the piano, the Co-operative Concert Company performed their somewhat restrained variety shows throughout the area covered by The Guildford & District Co-operative Society, which was established in 1891.

    To mark the opening of the new Co-op at Woodbridge Hill, the Co-Operative Concert Company were in action on 20 February ’20 at the Church Room, Stoughton. Five days later, on 25 February ’20, the group were the musical portion of a ‘concert-meeting’ regarding education in Guildford at the Borough Hall, Guildford.

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  • Poise

    Poise

    (c’92-93) Jo Bartlett (guitar / vocals), Danny Hagan (bass), Ches ? (drums), and Rudy ? (guitar)

    Bartlett front and centre for Poise c’93. Source: Indie Through the Looking Glass

    Bartlett and company may have relocated Camden, but their musical endeavors are forever embedded in the GU. In late ’92 Poise formed around Bartlett and Hagan, and although short live made a sizeable impression.

    In January ’93 the band supported Fret Blanket at The Falcon, Camden. Later that month The Buzz Club, at the West End Centre, Aldershot, had Poise and Flavour supporting Cornershop on 30 January ’93. The following month, on 24 February ’93, they returned to The Falcon to support Flower Sermon.

    The Buzz Club, nepotistically, welcomed the band back for a supporting role on 2 October ’93. The Afghan Whigs had been booked but they reneged and were replaced by San Francisco-based power pop band, The Loud Family. Meanwhile, Poise were supposed to be joined in support by Jacob’s Mouse, who also went back on their promises and were replaced by Elastica. The final Buzz Club ran later that year, on 4 December ’93, and Barlett and Hagan’s Poise opened for Shed Seven and headliners Dodgy; just as their band Go! Service, along with Zaz Turned Blue, had opened for The Blow Monkeys, seven years earlier, at The Agincourt, Camberley on 1 December ’85.

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  1. Human beings takes me back to 1981. Followed them all over the Surrey reading area for a year a great band and 3 good guys playing well written songs of the era. I wish john Tim and steve well what ever they are doing now. Should reform for a few shows just like Oasis but do the wooden bridge.

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