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  • Skipper

    Skipper

    (c’94-’96) Simon Beagley (vocals), Jim “Jimbo” Norris (guitar), Sean Wilkinson (guitar), Ben Norris (bass), and Steve Collings (drums).

    Insert for the “(Skipper)” cassette EP released in ’94 on Bluefire Promotions. Picture courtesy of Sid Stovold

    This Camberley based band, one of the two to come together after the demise of Pretty Green, the other was The Hairy Things. Skipper released the “(Skipper)” cassette EP in ’94 on Bluefire Promotions. That same year they released the 7″ single “We’ve Got It All” in the UK on Icarus Records [ARUS 003]. The 3 tracks, that included “Heroine” and “Grateful”, were recorded at Monster Studios, Leatherhead and produced by Chris Stevens. This was the same label as Who Moved the Ground? who they gigged with regularly.

    9 April 1994: Ticket for The Outcast Band, Who Moved the Ground! and Skipper at the National Rifle Range Pavilion, Bisley. Source: Blag Promotions

    On 9 April ’94 the two bands, Skipper and Who Moved the Ground?, supported The Outcast Band at the National Rifle Range Pavilion, Bisley. In September ’94, Skipper performed four times: On 3 September at the Cellar Bar, South Hill Park, Bracknell with The Love Family and Big Boy Tomato; on 10 September at an all-day event at The Wheatsheaf, Aldershot with Serious Plankton and Toys in the Attic; on 14 September at the Powerhaus, Islington; and a week later on 21 September at Aitch’s, Godalming with Who Moved the Ground? The following month the band supported The Counterfeit Stones at The Red Lion, Brentford on 7 October; followed by an appearance the next day with Who Moved the Ground at The White Hart, Frimley. Two weeks later, on 22 October ’94, they were back supporting The Counterfeit Stones, this time at The Swan, Fulham. In November the Icarus Records label, to help promote the single, team up with Critical Club for an event at the West End Centre, Aldershot that featured Skipper, Who Moved the Ground?, and Meanwhile.

    19 November 1994: Icarus Records promo gig with Skipper, Who Moved the Ground! and Meanwhile.

    On 3 February ’95, Redefining Beautiful opened the first Splatch! with Meanwhile, The Baby South, and Skipper also on the bill for this event at the Civic Hall, Guildford. The band were back at South Hill Park on 9 March ’95, this time for The Shed with Headcopter. When Ben Norris left Paul Pomeroy picked up bass duties. Shortly after, on 28 June ’95, Skipper were at the Bull and Gate, Kentish Town; and two days, on 30 June ’95, Skipper were supporting Feckle, along with The Perishers, at Blades Bar, Basingstoke. Bluefire Records put “Indian Giver” on “Snakebite City Three” [BLU06] in ’95, while Farnborough Groove picked up “Cheated” for “Farnborough Groove Strikes Back! Vol.5”. On 26 October ’95, the Starfish Club at Dublin Castle, London hosted headliners The Mystics, supported by Skipper and Sludge Nation.

    Skipper, along with Dry Riser, opened for Who Moved the Ground? once again on 21 March ’96 at The Warehouse, Fleet. Later in the year, “Indian Giver”, track 2 from the “(Skipper)” EP, also appeared on Spangle Records [SPANG 003] “Club Spangle Number 3″ compilation 7” EP in 1996. That same year “Grateful” was published on “The Best Farnborough Groove in the World – Ever! Vol.6” and Bluefire Records [BLU07] “Snakebite City Four”.

    Collings played drums on the B-side of The Vinegar Blossom‘s “Absence of A Choice”, 7″ single, released in Germany in September ’91.

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  • Slack Bladder

    Slack Bladder

    (c’87-’88) Martin Crook (bass / vocals), Andy ‘Bolus’ Bullock (?), and Neale Brodie (?).

    Experimental Slack Bladder became part of the Frimley band co-op known as The Grain. Along with fellow members: Magic Moments at Twilight Time, The Charles, Momento Mori, The Visionairies, and Greed they put on a free festival at Highland Farm, Frimley Green, on 20 September ’87, in aid of Greenpeace.

    Insert sleeve for Slack Bladder’s “Safe Experiments with Bacteria” cassette LP. Picture courtesy of Mick Magic

    Next Slack Bladder appeared with Magic Moments at Twilight Time at Frimley Community Centre, on 12 December ’87, for a Xmas bash gig that went by the ‘A Taste of Paranoia” moniker. A live recording of the bands “Suicide Man” was included on the Grain-Aid compilation in early ’88. They also released the “Safe Experiments with Bacteria” cassette LP that year.

    Crook is now in Aldershot band Princess, while Bullock goes by the performing name Andy Bolus and is still performing as the solo artist Evil Moisture.

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  • Clone

    Clone

    (c’82-’83) Pat Sullivan (bass) John Smith (vocals), ? “Zura” ? (drums), Paul Denison (guitar).

    Smith and Sullivan had previously been in Exit, Denison came from Deadlock. Clone played 5’s Wine Bar, Aldershot a few times, once headlining a gig on 31 May ’83 with Black Easter and Maxi Puch and the Macho Moped Men.

    31 May 1983

    You never called “Zura”, who was a huge Hawkwind fan, Russian; he was Georgian and is now living in Georgia. Denison went on to Frayed Edge.

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  • Gerfump!

    Gerfump!

    (c’95-’97) The Gerfump! fanzine was created by Caroline Stedman, who was aged 14 at the time, as a means to blagging her way into gigs. The name was a reference to Kerrang, although Stedman thought she might end up writing for NME one day. Ably assisted by Sadie Smith and Michelle Cresdee, it was compiled and printed on Stedman’s father’s home-computer and printer.

    In ’97, the crew from this NE Hampshire ‘zine attended a fanzine convention in Oxford. Cresdee interviewed alternative rock band A about their new album ‘How Ace Are Buildings’, and they could often be caught backstage at the Civic Hall, Guildford. At one point they met Steve Lamaq and he bought a copy of the ‘free’ Gerfump!

    Gerfump! ran to at least 6 issues:

    Issue #1: Carried a review of Who Moved the Ground?‘s ‘Good Question’ EP

    Issue #2: ?

    Issue #3 (April ’96): Reviewed Snakebite City Vol.4; Club Stout at The Angel, Godalming was the ‘Club of the Month’; reviewed the J.C. Regulator, Headnoise, and Sandwich Box gig at the West End Centre, Aldershot; ran a piece on Redwood being, back in the studio; made Who Moved theGround? ‘Band of the Month’; and listed ’96’s festivals of note.

    Issue #4: ?

    Issue #5: ?

    Issue #6: Carried a review of Who Moved the Ground?’s ‘If Pleasure Was Illegal’ EP

    Stedman is now a Mumbai based composer, sound artist, live sound engineer, digital artist and writer under the Miss.Kotton monica; with a special interest in psychoacoustics, soundscapes, AI & hardcore rave.

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  • Parasites

    Parasites

    (c’80) Steve ‘Sid’ Dean (bass), Sean Brennan (guitar) and Allan Howland (drums).

    Formed in February ’80 they played Jam / Clash covers along with some original songs. Organized their own gigs at venues like Lightwater Pavilion.

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    Rough image of 12 June 1980 Soundscene column article mentioning Parasites.
  • Internal Autonomy

    Internal Autonomy

    (c’86-’93) Alex Cable (drums), Nikki Crow (vocals), and Si (guitar).

    Internal Autonomy were a Punk/Goth band from Frimley, heavily influenced by Black Easter, with the guitarist Al from Cyanide Scenario originally forming the band with others. In ’87 they released their first demo “Song and Speech”, followed the next year by 50 copies of the self-released C90 cassette LP “The Cause of Liberty” [ALT4]. There were 13 tracks on the A-side; nothing was listed for the B-side, but it carried folk music and poetry.

    “The Cause Of Liberty” cassette cover from 1988

    In ’89 there were two releases: “Capitalism on Sulphate” and the “4th Demo”. Early in ’90 came the “Tired of Sleeping” EP. This, along with the earlier releases led to interest from German label Recordrom Records who released “Inquiry” in ’90 and the 7″ single “Love” [VOL 008] in ’91. That same year an LP release on WoW Records titled “Hear in Our Hearts”, with title track written by Andy Martin (lyrics) and Music & Elsewhere‘s Mick Magic (music), was planned but never made it to fruition.

    Nikki Crow in ’91-ish

    In ’92 the band were included on a number of compilations, including “Agony of A Contaminated Society” and “Mind Pollution”. The following year they changed their name to Automomex, but only after releasing the double EP “Only You Have the Power” on the Profane Existence Records, the label for Dan Siskind’s DIY punk collective tat released anarcho-punk from bands throughout the world. 2010 saw the release on “Discography” on Front Cover Productions [CFD002], a 2 CD compilation of Internal Autonomy’s work.

    1993’s ‘Only You Have the Power’ 2xEP test pressing

    From around 2013 some original members continued as Ferox / Feroxide, out of Neath, South Wales; where Cable ran Raven Studios – which was moved from Camberley, where it was used by The Perfect Circles – until around 2018.

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  • Genesis

    Genesis

    (c’67-’97) Peter Gabriel (vocals / flute), Mike Rutherford (guitar / bass), Tony Banks (keyboards), Chris Stewart (drums), and Anthony Phillips (guitar).

    Formed at Charterhouse School, Godalming in January ’67, the band were named Genesis by former Charterhouse pupil Jonathan King. Prior to Genesis, Rutherford had been in The Anon with Richard Macphail (vocals), Rivers Job (bass), Rob Tyrrell (drums), and Phillips, who’d also been in The Garden Wall with Gabriel, Stewart and Banks. When these two earlier bands had split, Rutherford and Phillips continued to write and jam together.

    It was in January ’67 that Rutherford and Phillips invited Banks, Gabriel, and Stewart to join them at a friend’s home studio to record “Don’t Want You Back”, “Try a Little Sadness”, “She’s Beautiful”, “That’s Me”, “Listen on Five”, and “Patricia”. These were great as rough demos, but they sought out ex-pupil King – following his success with “Everyone’s Gone to the Moon” in ’65 – to arrange for and produce the professional recording of the band’s first singles and “Genesis to Revelation” their debut album in ’68; this was after King had got this bunch of 15- to 17-year-olds a one-year contract with Decca Records.

    Genesis’ first single “The Silent Sun”. Picture courtesy of Ben’s Collectors Records

    “The Silent Sun”, a Banks / Gabriel penned Bee Gees pastiche, backed by “That’s Me” was released in February ’68, securing some airtime on BBC Radio One and Radio Caroline, but no sales. Their second single, released in May ’68, “A Winter’s Tale / One-Eyed Hound” faired a similar fate. This first incarnation lasted until Mid ’68 when Stewart left to continue his studies. He was replaced by fellow Charterhouse pupil John Silver.

    Their debut album, “Genesis to Revelation”, was produced at Regent Sound Studios, London over 10 days in the school’s summer holiday, with orchestral arrangements by Arthur Greenslade added in production by King without their knowledge. The album cover, when it was released in March ’69, did not include the band’s name to appease Decca – who’d discovered a US band of the same name and was often found in the religious section – ultimately it was a failure, selling only 650 copies in the first year. There was little activity after the album release: Phillips and Gabriel finished their exams at Charterhouse; Rutherford went to Farnborough College of Technology, while Banks went to Sussex University. The bands third single “Where the Sour Turns to Sweet / In Hiding” was also not successful on its release in March ’69. They got together at the end of the school year to decide their future.

    Phillips. Rutherford, Banks and Gabriel decided to pursue a music career. They entered Regent Sound in August ’69 with Silver and laid down “Family”, “White Mountain”, “Going Out to Get You” and “Pacidy”. The lack of prior success led to a split from Decca and King, who retained the rights to the debut album, but their new demo tape was rejected by every record company that received it. Silver, having been with the group for just over a year, left to study in America with John Mayhew joining on drums in September ’69. Genesis took up residency in a cottage, belonging to ex-Anon member Macphail’s parents, in Wotton to write and rehearse, reportedly playing together for up to 11 hours every day.

    Ad from 7 Feb 1970 Melody Maker

    Their first live gig was in September ’69 at a teenager’s birthday. This is when things started to pick up, and Macphail became the bands tour manager from ’69 through ’73. Macphail drove them around in an old Hovis delivery van to regular spots at the Gin Mill Club, Goldalming, a support slot with Rare Bird for Tyrannosaurus Rex at Brighton Done on 18 February ’70, an appearance on BBC’s Night Ride on 22 February ’70, and the Atomic Sunrise Festival on 11 March ’70 – to an audience of less than 20, supporting David Bowie, at the The Roundhouse, London – preceding a six-week Tuesday night residency at Ronnie Scott’s Jazz Club in Soho. At the recommendation of Rare Bird, A&R man John Anthony of Charisma Records came to see them, then convinced Tony Stratton-Smith to watch them the following week.

    An early Genesis gig at the Gin Mill, one of their first, was witnessed by a 14 year old Bill Leabody, who went on to be Production Manager for the likes of Peter Gabriel and Coldplay, who was also the ex-tech for The Edge. Pete Newberry, the brains behind Gin Mill, was good friends with Stratton-Smith which helped him secure Genesis for the venue; although Newberry knew Genesis when they were still at Charterhouse as they used to hang around at the Record Corner, Godalming. Eventually, Genesis rehearsed their music at The Gin Mill in June and July 1970, and their 20 December ’70 gig, supported by Fusion Orchestra, at the Gin Mill got a rave review in Sounds; “the best new band to appear here in its three years of existence” said club organizer, Newberry.

    20 December 1970: Gig at the Gin Mill Club, Godalming.

    Stratton-Smith signed them to Charisma on a record and management deal, paying Genesis an initial sum of £10 a week. Genesis was initially set to open for The Who at Eliot College Dining Room, University of Kent, Canterbury on 8 May ’70, but The Who rescheduled to 16 May, when Genesis performed at the University of Surrey, Guildford, returning on 27 June to perform at the first Surrey Free Festival at the university along with Patto, May Blitz, Horse, Bridget St. John, CMU, Poppa Ben Hook, and Plinth. They stayed at the cottage in Wooton during this time, before recording the album “Trespass” at Trident Studios, London with Anthony as producer. By August 1970, Phillips had gone solo and Mike Bernard (guitar) had joined as well as Phil Collins (drums), who’d come over from Flaming Youth to replace Mayhew. Quiet Worlds guitarist Steve Hackett replaced Bernard in December 1970 and welcomed in the bands most progressive period.

    The support slots continued, including the Easter Festival at The Lyceum, London on 9 April ’71 with Van der Graaf Generator, Audience, Patto, Follow the Buffalo, and Bell & Arc. Six days later, on 15 April ’71, there was an appearance at the Civic Hall, Guildford supporting Van Der Graaf Generator again, along with Lindisfarne, and Graham Bell & Arc. “Nursery Crymes” – it is reported that, around September ’70, Rutherford’s father helped Genesis, with the newly recruited Collins, to rent The Maltings, Farnham where they rehearsed for six weeks and wrote what was to become their album “Nursery Crymes” – was released in November ’71, but the band had not cracked the UK yet, garnering more interest in mainland Europe.

    27 May 1972: Genesis supported by Nimbo

    On 17 February ’72 Genesis played the City Hall, Sheffield and a week later, on 25 February ’72, they supported Moot the Hoople at the Locarno, Sunderland, then headed south to the Bracknell Sports Centre to support, along with Morgan, Arthur Brown’s Kingdom Come the next night. Then on 28 April ’72 the band performed at Kingston Polytechnic, with Spread Eagle in support. A month later the ex-student, Mike Rutherford’s band headlined, supported by power pop from Nimbo at Farnborough Tech on 27 May ’72 – Genesis had actually played the venue on two earlier occasions as support to the supporting band on the first, then as the support the following time (details to be uncovered). The Entertainment Committee at Hasting College of Further Education booked Genesis to headline at Hastings Pier on 2 June ’72, supported by Budgie. ’72 also saw the band on the roster for Day 1 of the Reading Festival, on 11 August. Later that year “Foxtrot” entered the UK charts, followed in ’73 by “Selling England by the Pound” and the band’s first UK Top 30 single: “I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe)”.

    July 1974: Genesis at Headley Grange during the writing of ‘The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway’

    The band ‘retired’ to Headley Grange in ’74 to work on their next LP; and later that year “The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway” was released; but at the end of the transatlantic tour, that promoted the album, in August ’75, Gabriel left. Collins took over the lead vocalist role. “A Trick of the Tail” and “Wind & Wuthering” were released in 1976 followed by Hackett’s departure. The band was now just Banks, Rutherford, and Collins and this line-up’s first album was titled “…And Then There Were Three…”, which was released in ’78. This carried “Follow Me, Follow You” their first UK top ten and US top 30 single. Their success grew as the albums “Duke” (1980), “Abacab” (1981), “Genesis” (1983), and “Invisible Touch” (1986) were released.

    Collins left Genesis in ’96. Stiltskin’s Ray Wilson joined for “Calling All Stations” in ’97, but lacklustre US sales led to a hiatus. Banks, Rutherford and Collins reunited for the ‘Turn It on Again’ tour in 2007. Genesis have not been active since that tour, but Banks, Rutherford and Collins; along with Gabriel and Hackett, did participate in interviews for the 2014 BBC documentary “Genesis: Together and Apart”.

    Silver became a TV Producer. Cobham born Gabriel, a leaving the band in 1975, launched a solo career with the single “Solsbury Hill” as his opening volley. Banks also pursued a solo career with rock and classical release and film scores to his name. Phillips released “The Geese & the Ghost”, his first solo album in ’77; he also wrote and recorded with Andrew Latimer for Camel to help fulfill contractual obligations for Decca and continues to produce LPs, and TV and film scores. Rutherford is the one of only two continuous band members, along with Banks. Rutherford also released a couple of solo albums in the ’80s and in ’85 he formed Mike and the Mechanics. Stewart went travelling through Europe, working as he went and eventually settled on a Andalucian farm, which he works and became an author. Mayhew left this world on 26 March 2009 after moving to Australia in ’82 and working as a carpenter until his death in Glasgow, Scotland.

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  • The Perfect Circles

    The Perfect Circles

    (c’93-’96) Paul Morris (vocals / guitar), Ady Evans (bass), John Metcalfe (drums).

    Metcalfe and Evans had both been in Blue Velvet before The Perfect Circles. This Farnham 3-piece released the demo cassette “Suburban Overtones” late in ’93. They recorded the 4 tracks at Raven Studios, Camberley over the 4-7 September with additional help from Jon O’Neill (keyboards).

    Inlay for The Perfect Circles 1993 demo cassette “Suburban Overtones”. Picture courtesy of Sid Stovold

    1994 appears to have been a quiet spell, but then the Bliss Aquamarine label picks up “Cryin’ Out for Love” and “So Much to Me” for the Sapphire compilation cassette LP [BLISS 020] in ’95; followed shortly by an appearance on Bluefire Records Snakebite City Three [BLU06] with “Fallen Hero” and Farnborough Groove Vol.5 with “Don’t Let Me Down”. While the band gigged regularly, we have only found a few listings to date: On 18 February ’95 the band were at the West End Centre, Aldershot. A few days later, on 23 February, they appeared at South Hill Park, Bracknell. Then towards the end of the year, on 7 October ’95, the band performed at The New Inn, Basingstoke.

    7 October 1995: The Perfect Circles were at The New Inn, Basingstoke according to this ad from ‘ragazine’ Donut Vol.6 (Oct 95).

    Both Bluefire Records and Farnborough Groove bought The Perfect Circles back in ’96’ with “Cryin’ Out for Love” appearing in Snakebite City Four and “Rainchaser” appearing on Farnborough Groove Vol.6.

    Both Morris, who’d also previously been in West One, and Evans joined with Graham Judd of Toys in the Attic to form Modern Art Thieves.

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  • Toys in the Attic

    Toys in the Attic

    (c’94-’95) Graham Judd (vocals / guitar), Matt Megson (guitar), Gary Clarke (bass / vocals), and Martyn Fowler (drums).

    This Aldershot band are not the same as the Toys in the Attic credited with the “White Bird” track on the Taxim Records German release “Various ‎– The Infinite Summer Of Love” [TX 2016 2 TA] in ’94, see the comment below for more of them. But, at one point Fowler spent 6 months in Australia and Darren “Paddy” Thorpe – who’d done time in Explodehead, and Peachrazor – stepped in on drums. On 10 September ’94 the band were part of an all-day event at The Wheatsheaf, Aldershot with Serious Plankton and Skipper.


    1 April 1995: Opium Jones, Who Moved the Ground?, Toys in the Attic, and Bloom play Splatch at Civic Hall, Guildford. Source: The Surrey & NE Hants Music Scene

    On 1 April ’95, Toys in the Attic played third on the bill at Splatch, held at Civic Hall, Guildford, with Opium Jones, Who Moved the Ground?, and Bloom. That same year Bluefire Records included the bands “Not Like You” as the penultimate track on the Snakebite City Three [BLU06] compilation.

    Judd, who’d been in Blue Velvet, and the others spent 24 hours in Vons Studios, Islington with engineer Lee Rumble; recording 3 tracks. These were released as the “Toys Are Us” demo later in ’95. Later in the year the demos opening track “Lost” was included on Farnborough Groove Strikes Back; Vol. 5.

    Inlay to “Toys Are Us” demo cassette. Picture courtesy of Sid Stovold

    The band changed name to Breaker at some point. Judd went on to form Modern Art Thieves with Paul Morris (ex-West One) and Ady Evans (ex-Blue Velvet) who were both in The Perfect Circles.

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  • Butaca Club, Old Woking

    Butaca Club, Old Woking

    The club started in Gloster Road (on the corner of Priors Croft) in 1960, in the Community Hut, and existed until ’64. Run by Sam Hoadley and his sax playing son, Tony Hoadley; this long building, once you’d entered through the doors and passed the bathrooms on the left, featured music and dancing in the large “hall” room; with records Monday through Thursday and a live band on Fridays.

    The bands often played in the smaller room through the door at the end. It was the venue for The Pink Bears debut gig in ’63, when they were known as The Senders. Ray Lewis, T. Hoddley’s cousin, and Terry Crowe used to play there in a Skiffle group called The Gravediggers, who later moved into Rock n Roll as Terry Crowe & The Counts. The Nashville Teens also appeared at the venue; as did The Stormville Shakers on 10 December ’62 and 7 January ’63, and The Temperance Seven. The Tony Hoadley Band was also a regular booking and often featured Bill Leru Quintet members Bill Leru and Peter Cauldwell.

    On many a night you’d find Ralph and his friends dancing in their wellies with turned over tops; one of whom wore a tailed suit jacket. It’s location near the Queen’s Head made it rather popular. On Sunday’s the Community Hut was used as a Catholic church and reportedly service always smelled of beer (although none was served there) and cigarette smoke. On a couple of occasions Hoadley, the younger, organized coach trips from the club to the Newbury Jazz Club to see the likes of Kenny Ball & His Jazzmen and Nat Gonella.

    Tony Hoadley, also performed comedy under the stage name Tony Gerrard, Britain’s best ‘sit down’ comedian, starting out in in ’68 alongside the likes of Bernard Manning, Frank Carson and Mike Reid in the working men’s clubs, with appearances on Celebrity Squares, The Comedians, EastEnders and The Bill. Tony died on 24 May 2012.

    There is a public record (ED 149/229/3) titled Butaca Club, Woking; dated 1960-1964, held at The National Archives, Kew. that we need to investigate.

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    Sax player Tony Hoadley’s band at what is believed to be the Butaca Club, Old Woking.

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  1. Human beings takes me back to 1981. Followed them all over the Surrey reading area for a year a great band and 3 good guys playing well written songs of the era. I wish john Tim and steve well what ever they are doing now. Should reform for a few shows just like Oasis but do the wooden bridge.

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