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The White Swan, Aldershot
The White Swan, on North Lane, Aldershot, which was known affectionately as The Mucky/Dirty Duck, closed in 2012; having been a pub from around 1880 when it was run by Charles and Fanny Bignall.
In the 60’s, when Ernie ? was landlord, a Mr. Forman regularly played accordion at the pub. Jumping to the ’90s, on 4 September ’94 it was on the promo tour for Who Moved the Ground?‘s second single, “The Chase”/”What’s That”. A week later, on 11 September, Thieves of Dreams played there.
Planning permission was granted, in January 2013, for this English Heritage listed Grade II building, and it is now offices and flats.Gallery:

4 September 1994, Who Moved The Ground? released their 2nd single: “The Chase”/”What’s That”. This clipping, from an unknown mag, lists the promo tour dates. Source: Who Moved the Ground?
The White Swan, Aldershot 
The White Swan, Aldershot 
The White Swan, North Lane. c2006. Source: Paul Atkins via Historic Aldershot Military Town -
X13
(c’94-’96) Andy Clark (guitars / programming / b.vocals) Phil Mears (vocals / guitar), Dave Gould (bass / programming), and Geoff Hawkes (guitar / b.vocals).
After the The Flowers of Sacrifice split the first time around Clark pulled together X13. Hawkes, who’d previously been in Giant Arc, was replaced by Clark’s fellow Flower Pat Evans (guitar) early in the band’s development. This industrial punk band then recorded their first demo cassette titled “Reality Lost” but oft referred to as “!” due to the cover. Hawkes returned, displacing Evans, before the recording of the second demo cassette: “Razor Edge”.

The X-13 “!” demo cassette. Source: Flowers of Sacrifice In their almost two-year lifespan the band, who did try but failed to work with a live drummer, called Paul ?, could be caught playing at The Old Trout, Windsor; The West End Centre, Aldershot; the Rock Garden, Covent Garden (twice); The Marquee, London and The Slaughterhouse, Berlin.
Hawkes and Clark went on to form Industrial dance band Splinter Faction, with Sean Passingham. Then Hawkes, Gould and Clark put together Clam, a rather melodic and tuneful combo, that included Dave Webb of Buzzwagon. Clam split when Gould moved to Northampton, but Webb and Hawkes reignited Buzzwagon for a while. In 2019, Clark recorded some EBM/Industrial tracks under the name The Last Pandemic, including a reworking of the X13 song “Stimulation”.
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The Four Horseshoes, Camberley
Sat on the Frimley Rd, Camberley, The Four Horseshoes was built in 1865 by Ashby’s Brewery, Staines; and hosted many a live music night in the early ’90s.
In ’90, Who Moved the Ground? appeared at the venue twice, on 14 July and 11 November. Explodehead performed there, in the alcove next to the stairs, on 9 February ’91, and Blue Velvet, who were gigging regularly on the local scene, visited The Four Horseshoes on 10 August and 26 October that same year. Thieves of Dreams, our first know gig for the band, opened for Who Moved the Ground? at the pub on 18 May ’91, which reportedly went down well with supporters of both.

Blue Velvet at Four Horseshoes, Camberley 1991 The next year, on 1 February ’92, the Four Horseshoes hosted Fate; and once again Thieves of Dreams, who were supported by Pretty Green, rocked it on 14 March that year. We are also aware of an appearance by Camberley / Farnborough band, Redefining Beautiful, with The Exploding Fir Trees, on the 25 July, but do not yet know the year.
It is still a pub today, now owned by Heineken, with the occasional live band.
Gallery:

25 July 19??: Redefining Beautiful played the Four Horseshoes, Camberley with The Exploding Fir Trees. Picture courtesy of Martin Warren 
18 May 1991: Who Moved the Ground? supported by Thieves of Dreams appeared at The Four Horseshoes, Camberley. Source: TOD Thieves of Dreams 
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Rusty Bucket
(c’85-’90) Jerry Morgan (drums); Kevin Mann (guitar), Phil Leahy (bass/vocals), and Ben Bennett (guitar).
Proud to be loud, Rusty Bucket were from the Hawley area and changed their line up a few times with departures and the addition of Jim ? (?), Pam ? (vocals), Paul Marshall (bass) and others. Morgan approached New in Town vocalist Miles Brant to audition with the band, with Brant jpining the band shortly after. We know the band took part in the Battle for the Limelight at Princes Hall, Aldershot in ’89, just before the venues refurbishment began, and appeared several times at The George, Ash Vale, notably on 30 December ’89. The next year they performed 14 times in August ’90 and maintained a similar cadence in September, returning to The George, Ash Vale on 25 November ’90.

1989: Rusty Bucket at Battle for Limelight. Prince Hall, Aldershot. Image courtesy of Ben Bennett. They went on to rename themselves Little Bones, after The Tragically Hip track. Mann, after playing with Mr Stixx for a brief time, emigrated to Australia and we found Leahy touring with Laid Back Country Picker in 2024. Bennett sadly passed in 2023.
Gallery:

Rusty Bucket c’85 departing from New Inn Hawley for gigs on South Coast. Source: Jerry Morgan via Farnborough (Hants) Nostalgia 
Rusty Bucket clipping from Farnham Herald, Sept 1990. Picture courtesy of Steve Hack. 
1989: Rusty Bucket at Battle for Limelight. Prince Hall, Aldershot. Image courtesy of Ben Bennett. 
1989: Rusty Bucket at Battle for Limelight. Prince Hall, Aldershot. Image courtesy of Ben Bennett. 
1989: Rusty Bucket at Battle for Limelight. Prince Hall, Aldershot. Image courtesy of Ben Bennett. 
1989: Rusty Bucket at Battle for Limelight. Prince Hall, Aldershot. Image courtesy of Ben Bennett. 
Rusty Bucket at the Charity Barn Bash. Image courtesy of Ben Bennett. 
Rusty Bucket at the Charity Barn Bash. Image courtesy of Ben Bennett. 
Rusty Bucket at the Charity Barn Bash. Image courtesy of Ben Bennett. 
Rusty Bucket at the Charity Barn Bash. Image courtesy of Ben Bennett.
















































Human beings takes me back to 1981. Followed them all over the Surrey reading area for a year a great band and 3 good guys playing well written songs of the era. I wish john Tim and steve well what ever they are doing now. Should reform for a few shows just like Oasis but do the wooden bridge.
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